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			<title>New Website</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m considering making a new website-- but the problem is i have no idea what to make it on; or how to structure it... any ideas?]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:00:17 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Recession?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Stocks dropped almost 400 points (DJIA) yesterday, and today, despite a strong start, stocks were down again about 65 points.  I think we are in the midst of a recession - and I hate to say it, but with the amount of expansion that has taken place to finance the war and keep the housing bubble going, it could be a relatively painful one.  <br /><br />The real question, though, is Bernanke going to make things worse trying to stall the recession by &quot;infusing credit&quot; again? -or- What amounts to the same thing, will he take a helicopter ride and drop bags of money on the economy?<br /><br />They don&#039;t call him Helicopter Ben for nothing!<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Hilarious</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I remember when i was on my cruise to Alaska, we sat next to this couple from a dry county (where alcohol is not aloud). They were from somewhere is Missouri. Needless to say they were Christians, and places that are &#039;dry county&#039;s&#039; are usually only dry because of religion. Anyways, Check this out! I found this on Wikipedia and thought it was hilarious ;)<br /><blockquote><br />However, prohibiting alcohol sales may actually reduce public safety. Research has found that dry counties have higher proportions of alcohol-related traffic crashes than do wet counties. A study of Kentucky suggested that residents of dry counties have to drive farther from their homes to consume alcohol, thus increasing impaired driving exposure. [2] A study of Arkansas noted that wet and dry counties are often adjacent and that alcohol beverage sales outlets are often located immediately across county or even state lines. [3] Other researchers have pointed to the same phenomenon. Winn and Giacopassi observed that residents of wet counties most likely have &quot;shorter distances [to travel] between home and drinking establishments.&quot; [4] From their study, Schulte and colleagues concluded that in dry counties &quot;individuals are driving farther under the influence of alcohol, thus increasing their exposure to crashes.&quot;</blockquote> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_county" target="_blank" >Wiki Entry</a><br /><br />Its funny how dry countys have more wrecks and accidents cause of alcohol then wet ones!.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:56:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>No Electricity :(</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t power for 2 days now at home which kinda sucks; but, its commonplace when you live out where i do-- especially during a storm. Right now im at the office in santa rosa killing some time while my sister checks her email and things hehe.<br /><br />It kinda sucks; but, we are on the bottom of the list (the last people bascially) to have the power restored since there isnt really anything important in our area, and only a few scattered houses. Im hoping it will come back on today or at the very latest tomarrow so that i can get some gaming time in before the work week starts again :). ]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:25:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Unfiltered Sake Kicks Ass</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I like normal Sake somewhat (its decent but not great) ; but, i went to  sushi the other day with some friends and had some unfiltered Sake and its awesome. Instead of being clear, it looks somewhat like coconut milk and is pretty sweet with really good flavor. Ive only had one brand of it; but, the general japanese term for it (or so i understand) is called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigori" target="_blank" >Nigori *Wiki*</a> )<br /><br />I recomend that the next time you goto sushi, that you guys should give it a try-- its definitely a nice drink in my opinion. <br /><br />This is the brand i had<br /><img src="http://www.ozekisake.com/image/IMG_0865.JPG" border="0" alt="" /><br /><br />, which i guess is considered the cheaper stuff (at 5$ a bottle full); but, i really enjoyed it-- especially with some sushi.<br /><br />Anyways, u guys should check it out, u might like it<br />]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:36:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Sage / Hellfried Discussion</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Heres a long post of me bitching about religion and politics with hellfried. I&#039;m not going to format it or anything like that; but, it will give you guys something to read if your bored. I&#039;m Sure you will have a field day with it Dan; but, i think that i bring up a lot of good points-- thus i wanted to post it.<br /><br /> Sage (22:50:09 3/01/2008)<br />damn dude, obama is pretty sweet. (I included that above the read only button just to spark some Controversy! lol,, now you can  )<br /><br /> Sage (22:50:23 3/01/2008)<br />when looking at the other canidates, i hope he wins<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:09:09 3/01/2008)<br />fuck that<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:09:13 3/01/2008)<br />fuck obama<br /><br /> Sage (23:09:30 3/01/2008)<br />really why?<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:09:43 3/01/2008)<br />Cheney / Bush &#039;08<br /><br /> Sage (23:12:27 3/01/2008)<br />the only thing i dont like about obama becauses he has some support for christianity; but, its imposible to win any office in the USA without proclaiming christianity<br /><br /> Sage (23:12:47 3/01/2008)<br />atleast hes not crazy as shit like the other guy huckabee<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:13:21 3/01/2008)<br />i&#039;m pretty sure he announced that he&#039;s agnostic<br /><br /> Sage (23:13:49 3/01/2008)<br />nah hes a baptisted full on christian<br /><br /> Sage (23:13:52 3/01/2008)<br />but<br /><br /> Sage (23:14:10 3/01/2008)<br />he advocates free thinking/ skepticism<br /><br /> Sage (23:14:32 3/01/2008)<br />saying that its good to have doubts in religion; but, he still feels religion is important<br /><br /> Sage (23:15:10 3/01/2008)<br /><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/faith/" target="_blank" >http://www.barackobama.com/issues/faith/</a><br /><br /> Sage (23:15:16 3/01/2008)<br />half-way through his speech on religion<br /><br /> Sage (23:16:21 3/01/2008)<br />he does say some good stuff though<br /><br /> Sage (23:16:48 3/01/2008)<br />even regarding religion,, i mean i support some of the stuff; but then again, these guys are extremly good speakers<br /><br /> Sage (23:17:03 3/01/2008)<br />they can make the lamest shit seem interesting, that is where their skill and essentially job lies--- the power to persuade<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:26:31 3/01/2008)<br />oh must of been someone else, it&#039;s been a while<br /><br /> Sage (23:26:51 3/01/2008)<br />hes not agnostic, but he is very open to other religions<br /><br /> Sage (23:27:05 3/01/2008)<br />liek basiclaly accepts everyone; and says that non christians, should not pretend to be christians<br /><br /> Sage (23:27:42 3/01/2008)<br />i see him as being more christian then any of the other ones (in a good way)<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:28:06 3/01/2008)<br />I don&#039;t really care much about religious views of the candidates<br /><br /> Sage (23:28:08 3/01/2008)<br />hes not hardcore, advocating literal shit out of the bible, like anti abortion and anti gay (to name the classic exmaples)<br /><br /> Sage (23:28:31 3/01/2008)<br />hes more or less saying &quot;well, practice how u see it as being right&quot; etc. which i think is good<br /><br /> Sage (23:28:52 3/01/2008)<br />hehe, thats the thing that i care about the most :)<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:29:17 3/01/2008)<br />haha, so unimportant though compared to some of the real issues going on<br /><br /> Sage (23:29:45 3/01/2008)<br />i definitely will not support a hardcore christian, cause they will focus much of their attention to things like prayers in school; teaching Creationism in public schools<br /><br /> Sage (23:30:22 3/01/2008)<br />see, i dont think so, i think most of the problems in the united states and even in the world.. actually its not even i think so,,.. it is so that most problems in the world are because of religion<br /><br /> Sage (23:30:32 3/01/2008)<br />more people have died in the name of religion then anything else when it cames to wars<br /><br /> Sage (23:31:15 3/01/2008)<br />i think if you tackle that, it would help alleviate tons and tons of other of the larger issues<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:32:53 3/01/2008)<br />i don&#039;t think there will ever be a complete seperate of state and religion in US, so to hope for that is a wasted vote. Yeah you can say that religion caused pretty much all the problems but it&#039;s more like people use religion to disquise the true goals<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:34:38 3/01/2008)<br />this anime is decent; pretty old, but story line seems good<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:35:10 3/01/2008)<br />i didn&#039;t like the first episode where they tried to recreate d day, but it&#039;s not bad after that<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:36:04 3/01/2008)<br />claymore 76 is out <br /><br /> Sage (23:36:22 3/01/2008)<br />hmm, im not sure what u mean by your vote would be a wasted vote.. i mean, yeah i know if there ever was an agnostic or atheist, the chanced of them winning is little to zero<br /><br /> Sage (23:37:01 3/01/2008)<br />and i disagree with you in saying that &quot;religion was used a discuise to their true goals&quot;<br /><br /> Sage (23:37:31 3/01/2008)<br />most religious people do what they do because of their religion, that is their primary motive<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:37:35 3/01/2008)<br />well there are many scenarios of that, so it can go either way<br /><br /> Sage (23:37:37 3/01/2008)<br />that is the thing they consult first<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:38:22 3/01/2008)<br />let&#039;s take Iraq for example, Bush uses religion to go there, mixes it with nuclear threat and u got a war<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:38:37 3/01/2008)<br />true goal? probably oil, why else<br /><br /> Sage (23:39:49 3/01/2008)<br />i think that his true goal was oil, but i dont think he used religion to go there in the way that your thinking<br /><br /> Sage (23:40:13 3/01/2008)<br />one of his selling points was that &quot;They are muslim, we are christian&quot;, he even had a quote about how he was going to crusade over there<br /><br /> Sage (23:40:19 3/01/2008)<br />but that got shot down quick, people bashed him for that<br /><br /> Sage (23:40:37 3/01/2008)<br />his selling point was not &quot;We are the christian army and going to own the Muslims&quot;<br /><br /> Sage (23:40:42 3/01/2008)<br />but that was Definitely a +<br /><br /> Sage (23:41:13 3/01/2008)<br />him, and the media, created this bullshit idea that muslims are all terrorists, and since the christians dislike muslims already anyways, it played hand at hand<br /><br /> Sage (23:41:32 3/01/2008)<br />when in fact, there is basically just as many muslim terrorists as there are christian terrorists<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:41:56 3/01/2008)<br />it just adds fuel to the fire, it&#039;s not the main reason but he definetly got supporters from that<br /><br /> Sage (23:42:07 3/01/2008)<br />the fact about it is,,, is since most people here are christian, no one says or cares about when a christian goes apeshit; but, god forbid if a muslim suicide bombs and kills 5 people, they go psycho<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:42:30 3/01/2008)<br />and saying that it got shot down quick is just one view, there are many others<br /><br /> Sage (23:43:05 3/01/2008)<br />i mean, to strap a bomb to yourself and blow yourself up in the name of God (allah), is far more religious then most of the christians here could ever do. Thats called complete deticated to the religion--- which as the result shows, is some psycho ass idea that actually becomes reality and ends up killing tons of people<br /><br /> Sage (23:43:36 3/01/2008)<br />what do you mean saying it got shot down? bush publically appologized for it if i recall correctly<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:44:17 3/01/2008)<br />Bush apologize for anything? never would i see the day<br /><br /> Sage (23:44:46 3/01/2008)<br />White House apologizes for using &#039;crusade&#039; to describe war on terrorism Associated Press, 18 September 2001. WASHINGTON (AP) <br /><br /> Sage (23:45:21 3/01/2008)<br />Bush only meant to say that this is a &quot;broad cause&quot; to stamp out terrorism worldwide, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said.<br /><br />&quot;I think to the degree that that word has many connotations that would upset many of our partners or anybody else in the world, the president would regret if anything like that was conveyed. But the purpose of his conveying it is in the traditional English sense of the word, it&#039;s a broad cause,&quot; said Fleischer.<br /><br />On Sunday, Bush had told reporters: &quot;This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while.&quot;<br /><br />With that comment, he stoked suspicion in some Arab and Muslim quarters where crusade is a loaded term that recalls the Christians&#039; medieval wars against Muslims in the Holy Land.<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:45:38 3/01/2008)<br />and people blowing themselfs up of course is crazy in the name of religion but you don&#039;t see the people who actually plan them do it, they just prey on grieving mothers and others to do the blowing up<br /><br /> Sage (23:47:30 3/01/2008)<br />hmmm, i have mixed feelings on that, partly i agree with you; but, to say it isnt planned seems odd,, i mean the people who did the whole 9/11 incident had to have had part in planning<br /><br /> Sage (23:47:45 3/01/2008)<br />i dont think they just learned how to fly a plane, hijack it and all that jazz on a mere whim heh<br /><br /> Sage (23:48:50 3/01/2008)<br />but at the same respect, i know what u mean saying that &quot;the big guys arent the ones blowing themselfs up&quot;,, i guess you could argue two things... First of all they could have in their mind that maybe by staying alive and having others do the &#039;dirty work&#039; they can continue the movement and &#039;shepard&#039; gods work<br /><br /> Sage (23:49:24 3/01/2008)<br />but like you said; they could just be manipulating the wills of weak minded people, that we cannot know really<br /><br /> Sage (23:50:03 3/01/2008)<br />i guess my responce would be-- if people are so easily enticed and charmed with religious rhetoric, then wouldnt it be safer to just remove that out of the equation?<br /><br /> Sage (23:51:20 3/01/2008)<br />most people throughout history that do crazy ass shit (being inhumane acts etc) tend to do so as being either deeply and devoutly religious, or like you said, using their religion as a cover to &#039;control the masses&#039; as i think Marx said.<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:51:30 3/01/2008)<br />well your arguement is that religion creates problems in the world, thats apparant, i dont think anyone can argue that. but i think humans in general will fight over whatever, even if it wasn&#039;t religion it&#039;d be something else<br /><br /> Sage (23:51:45 3/01/2008)<br />The funny thing is,,, religion is so powerful that, one can also use it to persuade people to do good<br /><br /> Sage (23:52:06 3/01/2008)<br />you can take a seemingly fucked up group of individuals, convert them, and they turn out to be decent citizens (or so i speculate)<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:52:11 3/01/2008)<br />it&#039;s like in the southpark, where the atheist alliance are fighting the true athiests<br /><br /> Sage (23:52:14 3/01/2008)<br />but; the opposite is true<br /><br /> Sage (23:52:52 3/01/2008)<br />yeah thats a funny thing southpark does; but, i think that is bs honestly , people arent willing to die in the name atheism really; but, people will willingly die for God<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:53:43 3/01/2008)<br />obviously it&#039;s just mocking that people will die for a cause or a belief, it doesn&#039;t matter<br /><br /> Sage (23:54:26 3/01/2008)<br />hmm i parly agree with you in the above statement-- People/Humans fight... There is no way around it. People who advocate world peace are talking senseless bullshit really-- no species is able to have peace with eacother.... Killing, fighting and competeing is part of life-- world peace is not possible unless there is an Infiinite amount of resources for all people (or so i speculate)<br /><br /> Sage (23:54:54 3/01/2008)<br />see but thats where i think you are wrong... people don&#039;t just &quot;die for a belief&quot;<br /><br /> Sage (23:55:16 3/01/2008)<br />these religious people don&#039;t see it as &quot;i think this is correct&quot;,,, their mentality is &quot;I know this is right, no questions asked&quot;.<br /><br /> Sage (23:55:39 3/01/2008)<br />im not going to go blow up Taco bell because i have the belief that Burger king is better<br /><br /> Sage (23:55:58 3/01/2008)<br />But you better believe that a christian will go blow the shit out of a muslim because of their view of god<br /><br /> Sage (23:55:58 3/01/2008)<br /><br /><br /> Hellfried (23:56:24 3/01/2008)<br />yes, but removing religion completely; people will fight no matter what. <br />Religion right now just makes it so much easier for an excuse<br /><br /> Sage (23:57:17 3/01/2008)<br />why half ass it with excuses <br /><br /> Sage (23:57:41 3/01/2008)<br />i mean shit, if you want oil,,, then say &quot;Look fuckers, i want oil, you have oil.... Give it or ill fuck you up&quot;<br /><br /> Sage (23:57:53 3/01/2008)<br />i dont see why people, or politics should be so pussy about it <br /><br /> Hellfried (23:57:59 3/01/2008)<br />if you look at like native americans for example i don&#039;t think i ever heard them fighting each other over religion (i could be worng but thats just what i hear) they would fight over land, resorces etc<br /><br /> Sage (23:58:39 3/01/2008)<br />hahah dude those guys would fight over nothing,, just to kick the shit out of the other tribe,<br /><br /> Sage (23:59:04 3/01/2008)<br />my dad used to tell me of this funny story about  hawaiians how they would make cannoes just to paddle over to the other island and kick the shit out of them, then they would paddle home <br /><br /> Sage (23:59:13 3/01/2008)<br />they didnt even want anything; but to kick their ass lol<br /><br /> Hellfried (23:59:51 3/01/2008)<br />yeah shit like that, steal their food and rape their women, good times<br /><br /> Sage (00:00:14 4/01/2008)<br />i agree with you, without religion people will still fight--- that will never be solved<br /><br /> Sage (00:00:36 4/01/2008)<br />and it doesnt matter what u advocate-- that cannot be solved<br /><br /> Sage (00:01:02 4/01/2008)<br />but religion causes so many other societal problems because of extremists<br /><br /> Sage (00:01:56 4/01/2008)<br />and it seems kinda fucked up to advocate &#039;punishing everyone becauase of some crazy religous psychos&#039;.. But the problem is, is that the gap between religious people and seccularists (not religious) is becoming greater and greater<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:02:00 4/01/2008)<br />so going back to the original disagreemnt about religios view of the candidate. i dont think is important because u need to say ure christian type to get votes in america<br /><br /> Sage (00:02:54 4/01/2008)<br />thats ture<br /><br /> Sage (00:02:55 4/01/2008)<br />true<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:03:02 4/01/2008)<br />christian candidate will always win the nomination, it&#039;d be suicide for republicans or democrats to go otherwise<br /><br /> Sage (00:03:30 4/01/2008)<br />yeah for sure; but, its pretty hard to fake being a christian in front of the whole nation (or so i would think) if thats what your implying<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:03:47 4/01/2008)<br />i don&#039;t think it is<br /><br /> Sage (00:03:59 4/01/2008)<br />if you proclaim to be a christian, people are going to research the shit out of you, find out the church u goto, and so on<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:04:05 4/01/2008)<br />especially when you&#039;re a good speaker<br /><br /> Sage (00:04:07 4/01/2008)<br />u better have some big network of lies goin on <br /><br /> Hellfried (00:04:18 4/01/2008)<br />oh yeah for sure<br /><br /> Sage (00:04:19 4/01/2008)<br />which im sure is possible<br /><br /> Sage (00:04:31 4/01/2008)<br />but; lets say you do get office,<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:04:35 4/01/2008)<br />but when your bank account is in millions than i think u can afford to be anything u want<br /><br /> Sage (00:04:44 4/01/2008)<br />if you dont produce things that appease the christians, they are going to kick your ass<br /><br /> Sage (00:05:20 4/01/2008)<br />so , even if your faking about being a christian, your still getting completing their goals, and either way i dont think they give a fuck as long as your &#039;Taking the nation one step closer to God&quot;<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:05:31 4/01/2008)<br />i don&#039;t think so; once your elected your pretty much set as long as u got backin from the big companies<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:06:09 4/01/2008)<br />they&#039;ll be unhappy yeah for sure; but i think no one does anything these days, they&#039;ll just cry and wait till next election<br /><br /> Sage (00:06:27 4/01/2008)<br />but remember, most of these &#039;big companys&#039; are ran buy people who are christians (theoritically by the statistical fact that 80-90% of america is Christian)<br /><br /> Sage (00:06:56 4/01/2008)<br />i obviously cant say that for sure-- i have no evidence for that at all; but, its pretty good speculation in my opinion<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:07:02 4/01/2008)<br />yup; but then it comes down to business or god? well, god doesn&#039;t pay ure salary<br /><br /> Sage (00:07:14 4/01/2008)<br />its not like the all big corporations are led by groups of free thinkers and Atheists <br /><br /> Sage (00:07:50 4/01/2008)<br />God doesnt pay shit, he never does (or so i would argue) -- but many people dont care<br /><br /> Sage (00:08:47 4/01/2008)<br />its a pretty solid ratio that most people who are poor or in poverty are religious because they feel that things can be better (not be their own accomplishments, but by some invisable friend)<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:10:11 4/01/2008)<br />if elected president is signing ure company for multi billion dollar contracts, i dont think any religious or non religios person would care what his policies are about muslims or something<br /><br /> Sage (00:10:13 4/01/2008)<br />I agree with you that god doesnt pay your salary--- thus if the corporation doesnt make money it will end<br /><br /> Sage (00:10:54 4/01/2008)<br />but see what the presidency is doing<br /><br /> Sage (00:11:17 4/01/2008)<br />is they get the backing by the corporate world and then once they are in, they use their power to spread there religious crap<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:11:37 4/01/2008)<br />yeah i dunno it can go either way, im sure if elected president is getting like few million dollar bonus from the company im sure they will work directly or indirectly to please them<br /><br /> Sage (00:11:39 4/01/2008)<br />thats why the republicians do so well man<br /><br /> Sage (00:11:47 4/01/2008)<br />they have corporate backing, and they got the christians<br /><br /> Sage (00:12:18 4/01/2008)<br />i think presidency isnt really for the money though dude, presidents dont even get paid that mcuh<br /><br /> Sage (00:12:39 4/01/2008)<br />if a company hands you 10$ billion to shut the fuck up and back down, i dont think the person would do it<br /><br /> Sage (00:12:45 4/01/2008)<br />but i cant , of course, say that for sure<br /><br /> Sage (00:12:53 4/01/2008)<br />and i don&#039;t even know if thats legal? no idea..<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:13:01 4/01/2008)<br />i dunno 10million is allot of money <br /><br /> Sage (00:13:06 4/01/2008)<br />hell yeah it is<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:13:21 4/01/2008)<br />and u can always have some offshore bank acounts to not even trace to u<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:13:34 4/01/2008)<br />i think it can be done, and im sure it happens<br /><br /> Sage (00:13:45 4/01/2008)<br />but i think people like bush, and huckabee (&#039;08 hardcore christian) and the other hardcore ones that have been in the loop (names escape me),, jarry falwell etc... they are more in it for their religion<br /><br /> Sage (00:14:31 4/01/2008)<br />I don&#039;t think it happens-- if anything i think corporations donate money to the presidential campaigning,,, not to entice opponents to resign LOL <br /><br /> Sage (00:15:16 4/01/2008)<br />to say that Corporations control the presidency is basically fucking over the whole idea of democracy in the first place<br /><br /> Sage (00:16:20 4/01/2008)<br />i really do believe that presidents are chosen by popular vote. whether they persuade people or not though; has alot to do with the resources they have--- Ergo their disposable income (or so i would imagine)<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:16:24 4/01/2008)<br />yeah if you could regulate some how the time candidates get on air then u can eliminate allot of corporation bs<br /><br /> Sage (00:16:51 4/01/2008)<br />very true, or even put a cap on the spending limit of money that is allowed to be used<br /><br /> Sage (00:17:24 4/01/2008)<br />shit- ideally it would be the best if you gave everyone the exact same resources, time and money so that they can display their message<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:17:33 4/01/2008)<br />i mean they are having these debates over cnn and fox but they don&#039;t invite half the candidates, whats the point of that<br /><br /> Sage (00:17:52 4/01/2008)<br />then you could find out what people are really advocating (hopefully) instead of just shelling out millions of dollars paying people to do their dirty work<br /><br /><br /> Hellfried (00:18:14 4/01/2008)<br />yeah<br /><br /> Sage (00:18:19 4/01/2008)<br />yeah; well that is because they dont want a real debate in the event that their chosen canidate might get owned on live TV! <br /><br /> Hellfried (00:18:25 4/01/2008)<br />so you&#039;re not onboard with the Ron Paul with Dan?<br /><br /> Sage (00:18:30 4/01/2008)<br />its easy to win the war when your the only person there to fight <br /><br /> Hellfried (00:19:09 4/01/2008)<br />of course, it&#039;s even easier when they give u questions before hand so ure secretery can do all the speach for u<br /><br /> Sage (00:19:17 4/01/2008)<br />if i call you a pussy every day on the air over and over and over again, people will start to believe me regardless of who you are or what you know/believe<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:19:31 4/01/2008)<br />yup<br /><br /> Sage (00:19:50 4/01/2008)<br />most people in the world are simple minded people-- they dont want to deal with any of this shit, they would just as soon get trambled and walked over upon<br /><br /> Sage (00:20:05 4/01/2008)<br />(trampled was that word, but im sure u understood)<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:20:06 4/01/2008)<br />replace pussy with some unamerican unpatriotic message, and boom u pretty much have the win<br /><br /> Sage (00:20:14 4/01/2008)<br />thats true lol<br /><br /> Sage (00:20:30 4/01/2008)<br />or some anti christian message like--- Anti Gay Marriage---- Anti Abortion etc.<br /><br /> Sage (00:20:36 4/01/2008)<br />its funny<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:20:42 4/01/2008)<br />yup<br /><br /> Sage (00:21:17 4/01/2008)<br />the Huckabee christian guy i was telling you about is trying to advocate a new kind of marriage called a &quot;Coveted Marriage&quot; which is considered to be a more serious marriage<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:21:34 4/01/2008)<br />fansy<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:21:36 4/01/2008)<br />sign me up<br /><br /> Sage (00:21:57 4/01/2008)<br />(So basically there will be two levels,,, normal &#039;marriage&#039; and a &#039;coveted marriage&#039; which is more or less saying that you cannot get divorced unless you really fight it)<br /><br /> Sage (00:22:21 4/01/2008)<br />hes advocating that these coveted marriages get reconized and (or so i understand,) recieve more benefits <br /><br /> Sage (00:22:38 4/01/2008)<br />its basically a &quot;LIfe long marriage&quot; ,,, which,, christians believe that MArriage is a life commitment<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:22:52 4/01/2008)<br />I seen a cool site someone sent me; you got thru like huge questionare liek 30 questions or more and see which candidates answered closest to u<br /><br /> Sage (00:22:56 4/01/2008)<br />therefore, he is just making some political bullshit with marriage to re-enforce his religion<br /><br /> Sage (00:23:16 4/01/2008)<br />and of course all the christian bible freaks who are serious about their religion support it cause its in the bible!<br /><br /> Sage (00:23:28 4/01/2008)<br />oh wow thats really cool; u should send that to me<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:23:41 4/01/2008)<br />yeah it was at work i might of saved it<br /><br /> Hellfried (00:23:47 4/01/2008)<br />i&#039;ll have to look for it<br />]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:24:33 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I was throwing suggestions to a friend over computer parts and decided to build a quick high end pc real quick. Obviously it&#039;s missing HD and power supply, but what do you guys think?<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://quest4wisdom.com/blogger/images/Comp1.JPG" border="0" alt="" /><br /><br />Can down grade the memory speed to 4600, processor to 2.4 and go for cheaper case - that alone can save $350+<br />Even though I don&#039;t feel the need for an upgrade, but it&#039;d be nice to run games better and for any new games in the future. <br /><br />]]></description>
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			<author>Sage</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:14:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Civilization 4:  What I have learned.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This past weekend, Sage, The Russian, and I played a game of civ against 5 computers.  Even though I started in a good spot, I wound up with only 1 additional city started an ill-advised war that I wasnt in a position to win, and then, even after Sage rescued me, I could never catch up.  <br /><br /><br />Having only 2 total cities doesnt bother me that much, as I was unused to playing on such crowded maps.  Usually in this game, early expansion kills your research, which usually kills you in the early game.  Its just a matter of time until an AI civ decides youre an easy target.  But on a small pangaea map with 7 other players, it doesnt matter.  Your only going to get 3 (maybe 4 if your lucky) other cities.  Definately not an amount where the maintenance will destroy your economy.  Anyhow, lesson learned...but as I wasnt really used to it, that didnt bother me.<br /><br />What really bugged me was that I couldnt catch up.  I used to take great pride in my skill with these types of games.  Sure, I might get beatdown in CS or UT, but if the game was Civ, or AC, or AoK, or RoN, I would absolutely dominate.  So, once Sage saved my ass and gifted me 4+ extra cities, and I found that I still could not organize my cities well enough to catch up, I was really frustrated.  When they were taking in 500+ bulbs of science, I had merely 330 or so.  I never saw any of their cities, but by the way they were talking, their production was pretty damn good too.<br /><br />So Ive been practicing, and learning quite a bit as I think more carefully about what I&#039;m doing when I play.  Here&#039;s a list.<br /><br />-Viper suggested building your first worker early.  This wasn&#039;t my problem, but I&#039;m listing it here since I do one better.  I build worker first.  Always.  Well, unless im coastal, and start with the fishing tech and theres a water resource in my radius.  Then I will start with a fishing boat.  Its alot of food, and your city will grow while your building the ship, which means your worker on your second build will come out that much quicker.<br /><br />-When you build any new city, develop and work your food resources first, then irrigate and work any other squares up until you hit your happy cap.  Then build and work mines/cottages etc. over your irrigation.  Its way more efficient, and in a mp game with friends, it takes more micro and lengthen your turn, which means it will annoy them more :o)  Seriously though, while everyone else is rapidly growing to pop 6, and then switching over to 6 cottages do you want to be the guy slowly grinding away on cottages while at pop 2 or 3?  Grow first, specialize second!  There&#039;s no rule that says you have to keep that irrigation.  cottage over it once youve grown, keeping maybe 1 or 2 squares so you can rapidly grow once your pop cap increases.<br /><br />-When you get a religion, make it a priority to spread it to all your cities, convert, and grab the state religion civic.  Its the best religion civic there is.  It amounts to a free forge in every city when producing buildings or wonders (I dont think it applies to units).  Don&#039;t ever switch away from State Religion.  10% research from free religion is nothing...even if your going for the space race.  If you need the extra happiness from other religions under free religion, youre probably doing something else wrong.<br /><br />-For chrissakes, settle all your GPs!  Okay, if you are at philosophy, then bulb your scientists to make a quick leap to liberalism for the free tech.  But, really, aside from using the trade mission to get fast cash for upgrading, or hitting a golden age here and there, is there anything better than settling your scientists?  6 free bulbs per turn per scientist is better than everything except a gold mine...and thats assuming 100% tech rate, which is difficult to run.  In addition, counting up all the research bonuses you can get, i believe it adds up to around 200%.  Each settled scientist gives you then, 12 bulbs.  In the game I have now, I have 8 settled scientists in my science city.  Counting cottages and other tile improvements I bring in 300+ science in that city alone.<br /><br />-Which brings me to this very important point:  specialize your cities!  How much research did I say I was bringing in during my game with Sage and The Russian?  Around 330 with 6 or 7 cities!! while they had 500+.  Using great scientists, and specializing science only in that city I was able to achieve 300+ in 1 city alone!<br /><br />-Be flexible.  You may start out using a city as commerce, but it could be that later on its more efficient as production.  There is one important and dominant civic which will make you re-think how you designate cities.  I always figured that rivers were automatically commerce cities.  Sure, the extra commerce per square is helpful as a boost in the early game, especially playing as a financial civ (cottage along river gives you a 2 coin bonus per square).  But in the long run, this does not amount to much.  In the short run, by all means use this to get ahead, but try to designate this sort of city as a hybrid, and send your great scientists to another city for science specialization.<br /><br />-One big reason I&#039;ve found to be flexible is that state property is fucking dominating in this game (yes as a libertarian it hurts me to say it - and yes, I do think Sid Meier is a commi-lover!).  Watermill one side of the river, workshop the other side.  Fully upgraded, your state property water mills on grassland will be 3f 3p 3c.  workshops along the river i believe will be 3f 4p 1 c in grassland.  GRASSLAND!!!  Add in the levee improvement and thats more hammers along the river.  Workshop/mine the rest of your squares and youve got 1 badass production city.  Plus, its along a river which helps with unhealthyness.  Oh, and State Property eliminates the distance penalty for city maintenance which is more than enough to make you forget about that 10% science boost that you lost by foregoing on free religion.<br /><br />Thats it for now, those are the major things I&#039;ve noticed so far.  Add more, or comment.  Lets try to get this place going again!]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:17:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Wow, this looks like an awesome game, we should totally get it.  Click on the &quot;Take a Tour&quot; when you get to the page :)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.webkinz.com/" target="_blank" >http://www.webkinz.com/</a>]]></description>
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			<author>Sage</author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:00:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>No One Cares About Stolen Budweiser</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<img src="images/st-patricks-day-graphics-guiness-beer.jpg" width="224" height="307" border="0" alt="" /><br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7119073.stm" target="_blank" >Read the story here</a>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:07:10 GMT</pubDate>
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